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Counting Coup - 2006 & 2007 COURSE (California)

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Time (avg): 6:14 minutes
Distance: 42.5 miles
Ascent: 8,627 feet
 
 
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This route is used in the Counting Coup race put on each year by the Warriors Society to raise funds for trail advocacy. Expect some long arduous fire road climbs and wonderful singletrack descents. Blackstar Canyon leads you to the long undulating climbs on the Main Divide fire road to Silverado Motorway's singletrack descent. Then up Maple Springs and back onto Main Divide and ultimately Santiago Peak. The Holy Jim singletrack carries you down to the final sprint along Trabuco Creek Road.



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NameDateComment
Fast Turtle03/25/10Did the Coup Ride since my bike broke the night before the race. TOUGH COURSE. Did the Blackstar to Motorway with JB_29er. Thanks for keeping me company. Was trying to break a total time of 6 hrs but maybe next year. 
ryanarciero03/22/10What an incredible event. 1st time racing it and loved it. Thanks to my Dad, Gary, Jessica,Benny and of course I can't Forget Terry Best "The TO Show" for getting my bike ready for the epic journey, oh and for signing me up. Can't wait for the next adventure. 
jbh6503/22/10thanks to the WS for another great event. Nice seeing and speaking with a lot of familiar faces. Thanks KWH's for the light. Beat my time from last year, but got nowhere close to my personal time goal. I hate the pavement! 
RoughRiderR03/22/102010 CC! my 1st time, was awesome. 
Waldo03/21/10Ouch 
James_9503/21/10It was my first time doing this event and I exceeded my expectations by far! Next year I'll have to step it up to VQ. 
BigT03/21/10Wow what an adventure! What a rush seeing everyone cheering us on, especially at the finish! My wife surprised me with her and my daughter's presence at the first cutoff! I only cleared cutoff #2 by mere minutes which is where the cramps set in. :( Pushed too hard. So glad I didn't have to make a u-turn at the bottom of Holy Jim! You VQ'rs are nuts. I hope the guy that crashed in front of me on MW is ok. Crazy! Thanks Troy for hanging out for me at the end! Awesome event! 
DenT03/21/10Another great Warriors event! Did not do as well as last year but all things considered, respectable. It was neat meeting some of the riders at O'Hara's Pub picking up race packets Thurs/Friday. So cool to ride some with Chris and see Ted at the finish. And Jim and Dan, great to see you guys at the bottom of HJ. Looking forward to the Traverse. Am going to use this CC experience to achieve a satisfactory Traverse result,for a change. 
xhuskr03/21/10Better than last year, but below my expectations...reminder...DO NOT HAVE MILK BEFORE THIS TYPE OF EVENT! A last minute change of breakfast made for an uncomfortable ride. Overall I had a great time. Congrats to all who did the 2010 CC/VQ events! 
johno03/21/10Wow, what a great day for my first WS ride! Lucked into a spot at the last minute which left little time to train/prepare. I was pretty nervous about the ride but it couldnt have gone any better. Good fun riding with my buddy Juan who did the vq. Met some cool peeps along the way. Had a crazy crash on a long concrete stream crossing on trabuco. Tried to wheelie across it, got sideways, slid out and (nearly) slid into a car.Doh! Congrats to Doug, Hammertime and all who got after it. 
EK-RSM03/21/10RX: w00t! 
NO GO03/21/10So I started the day w/ the plan of beeks/motorway. Some how Twitch and I found ourselves at 4 corners then Saddle back peak then HJ and finally Trabuco. I wouldn't recommend doing the CC unsupported like Twitch and I did. Thankfully we mooched some food off other MTB riders and half finished water bottles left by racers earlier in the day. This was a looooong day of pain but worth it.....I think. Next year I'll be doing the CC for sure. 
slopush03/20/10First time riding CC and really enjoyed it. Other than cramping up at the top of Maple. Not crowded at all once things spread out- in fact, I didn't see a single fellow racer during the last five miles coming down Hold Jim Rd. I was beginning to think I was in the wrong place! THANKS to the Warrior Society for putting on such a well run event! 
Royster7103/20/10Legs are toast!! To many I saw people to list. Good seeing everyone! I beat last years time by 21 minutes. I am happy with that. Almost went of the side of backstar in the morning. My little light didn't see the hole :)Felt great coming down Motorway. Maple hurt started have leg cramps had to get off and walk it out. When I hit th peak it was Yaaa babyyy!! Time upper was in great shape thanks! warriors! Cleaned it all Holy Jim was awesome. Now im going to crawl in bed and Die :) 
MoJo03/20/10Awesome job Troupe-ers!! 
kacerrob03/20/10One of those days you will never forget. Other than a stupid fall the day was as planned. Great ride with Steve, Steve, John, Mike, Chris and that guy in Orange who pulled me up to the peak. Thanks. 
STEVO CARRILLO03/20/10whata dia! Missed my set goal due to cramping pretty much the whole ride. Started to seize-up @ the top of black and delt with it for another 6 hrs... Want to give a big shout to Paul ( Fast Turtle ) for meeting up with us at the bottom of Motorway for some much needed support and cheer, thank you sir and also Terry Best for an amazing set up on the bike. Great job boys, One Flew OTB,Brad, Muzzy, 29 inch nails, Rob and Mike.. Oh, their was a Lonnie sighting as well at the finish. Cheerz. 
One Flew OTB03/20/10My first CC. Wanted to break the 6 hour mark and was very happy to finish in 5:35. Legs were toast up most of Maple Springs - fighting off cramps. Perfect weather today for a big ride. Congrats to everyone that raced today! 
Cycling Escapes03/20/10Good time. Much easier than VQ :) 
trobe103/20/10Another great event put on by the WS - Thanks! What a difference this year for me. Felt good almost the entire ride and was much better prepared. Two flats were somewhat frustrating and another slow leak on my way in to the finish but all in all real happy with my time. Beat last years time by just about an hour. Good seeing everyone out there today. Big thanks to Matt & Rob for the support as well as Tim & Kevin. Couldn't have asked for a better day weather wise as well. 
RollnStone03/20/10Long day in the saddle. Took 30 minutes off my time from last year. The day went as calculated. No mechanicals, but I did run out of water at the Top of Lower Holy Jim. Lucky it was all downhill to the Aid Station. Thanks Warrior Society and all the volunteers. 
El Chupacabra03/20/10What a great day...except for the massive leg cramps 1:30 into the ride. Big thanks to 29 Inch Nails for staying with me. Gotta start getting ready for next year... 
flyingbrian03/20/10Great day for the Counting Coup ! ! Had a great time. Didn't do as well as my previous race , but didnt have a chance to train as much this year. Still had a great time ( aside from the usual suffering for this course ) 
Pmcmasters03/20/10My first time and boy am I sore. Had no mechanicals and only 2 small, quick cramps but nothing to stop me from pedaling. Thanks to Warrior Society for putting a fantastic event and thanks to all the aid station and check point support, you people ROCK!! 
halfasst03/20/10Great day out there. Still had cramping issues this year, maybe I'll figure it out next year. Lots of great riders and fans! 
XCRider03/20/10Yea! Perfect weather and trails; fun to see the Sun pop into view as I climbed the Main Divide. Might not get another one like this in a while. As always, thanks to WS for a great event. Clean run from BS to 4C, new PB at 4:53, and then cramping up to Modjeska slowed the rest of the climb with some HAB sections. Still, knocked 45m off last year's time. Tried to keep moving when off the bike. Guessing 20m stopped across the whole day, but ended up not socializing much. 
Hammertime03/20/10Awesome day, great seeing everyone out there today! And everyone had a good time, even with all the torture:-) Congrats to everyone who accomplished their goals! 
Graham Clark03/20/10Counting Coup 2010 was awesome. Amazing weather and sunrise. Felt good most of the ride. Thanks to my loving wife for being my support crew. 
fc03/20/10Thank you for WS. It was a long ride... 
Sjon03/20/10First time CC for me. Everything went as planned except for some extremely painful leg cramps from peak on. Took a very stoked 5th place overall. Glad I was able to help a fellow team mate get back in the race. Great job to everyone who finished!! 
Jr Munoz03/20/10What a fantastic day all around ! I will start by bragging about my kid who set a new course record for 1st place ! Awesome !! All the gang did well including Sjon 5th,and Agitate and Hal did the VQ. Ben had a rough day but toughed it out and had a respectable finish ! I beat my goal today after having broke my chain on blackstar and then again on trabuco then having to run and scooter my bike for the last few miles to the finish ! next time two quicklinks are going in ! Thx to god for it All 
goldrunner03/20/10Thx Warrior Society! Started off strong beating 1 of many goals of getting to Motor way within 2 hours. Then had 2 OTB's that could have been worse. Maple always sucks & today was no different. By the time I got to 4corners it was cramp city & had to walk tooo much lots of riders offered me endurolytes & pain killers that I refused(DUMB) Finish time was 10 minutes slower than 09. Not bad for doing it on a bike I have only riden once before toady. Thanks for the bike & Congratulations Daniel 1st Pl. 
robbiesdad03/20/10Didn't make the VQ cutoff even though my riding time is the same as last year. Too many stops for pain in the hand/wrist. Riding out completes the CC course. Congratulations to all the Gl people and their amazing performances. Nice to meet quickflip27, zunGu, and Cycling Escapes. 
ChrisTA03/20/10Wow! Now that’s a lot of sweat and tears for a Feather. The tears part I’ll explain later, but I would like to reflect on today’s Counting Coupe race. First of all, I would like to congratulate all who braved the endeavor. This was a tough race and one that most who have tackled the course will agree takes your all. This course was as expected…TOUGH! I will admit that I’m very proud to have raced this challenging race and prevailed. I have more to be thankful for this time than usual. I’m grate 
Twitch03/20/10Road the CC course for fun. Started after the racers left at about 9:00am. Thanks NO GO, he kept me going today. It was a real suffer fest for me after four corners but we kept pushing on. Thanks Vicky, she was working race support today and hooked us up with some Gatorade and water. 
PaulV03/20/10what can I say except what a day, was really cool to see so many people out there seriously ripping it up! perfect weather and nice temps. man did my azz start hurting going up Maple Springs!! :) 
29 Inch Nails03/20/10Too tired to be clever..ouch 
Keith B03/20/10Finished within seconds of my 08 time, Weird! Didnt feel good to start and got cramp early @ Pleasants. Too much air in the tyres made Main Divide slow progress on the downs. Crashed on motorway. Spent all of Maple to the Peak fighting cramp and popping endurolytes like candy. Cheers to the dude on the carbon stumpy for pushing me on. Nearly got creamed by a Hummer on Trabuco Creek Rd. Big thanks to Sarah for all the support and help over the last few months. Perfect weather today too :-) 
Mojo the monkey03/17/10 
zunGu03/16/10kinda windy, course is in great shape, especially Upper Holy Jim, ...easier than usual, really. 
tweasol03/14/10Big mama pre-ride today w/ quickflip!! Freakin' WINDY going up B-star, and even worse over to Motorway. Never seen it that windy up there. After motorway, the arctic wind mellowed out and the maple climb was rather enjoyable... Kinda. Was nice @ 4C, after which I got my 3rd wind and really hammered up to the peak. Upper and Lower are in nice shape. TCR was like freakin' BAJA 1000, I've never seen so many people and cars there, ever. VQ in less than a week, let's do it. Thanks again Ivan! 
quikflip2703/14/10Long day in the saddle trying to keep up with Tweasol. Trying to get a feel for the pain many of you will be going through next weekend :) Course was in great condition. Ran into Steve (TrailMonkey) on Lower HJ. Tips for Trabuco Canyon: ride through the middle of the water crossings (I found the hard way that algae is slippery); stand and mash when the rocks kick you out of your HT's saddle. Have a great race everyone :) cheers 
weaksauce03/12/10Doing keyesville instead of vq...so thought I would enjoy me some counting coup. Great ride...long day. 
ryanarciero03/08/10Wanted to preride before next weeks race. I have done each section separately but have never put it all together. Terry Best came along and it was an incredible ride. Damn that is one hard course. Glad to have Terry helping me along. Got it all in before rain started. Clouds started coming in on us as we rounded the corner to Santiago Peak. 
TomG03/04/10Black star to the top and through hidden valley has lots of wet sticky mud stay away until it dries out. Wet cold and still some snow on the back side of the peak. 
TrailMonkey02/25/10Good ride with Fast Turtle, One Flew OTB, and mjrauls. I need to do more group rides the suffering was well above my solo runs and pushed me to a PB. I had to push as hard as I could while watching Paul, John and Mike ride over the horizon. 
One Flew OTB02/25/10Garmin battery died at mile 36 so final ride time is approximate, but close (Used TrailMonkey's split from the peak to the end). Great weather between storms for a big ride with a great group: Fast Turtle, TrailMonkey, and mjrauls. Thanks guys for the great company! Splits: BS to gate 59:29, to Motorway 1:05, Motorway 14:17 (PB!), to 4 Corners 1:18, to peak 44:02, to finish 1:01. I'm cooked! 
Fast Turtle02/25/10Rode with Trail Monkey, One Flew OTB, and mjrauls. It was a suffer fest after 4 corners. Great day for riding. One Flew OTB was very strong. You reach the top and then feel like the pain is over then you have to squeeze the brakes for 10 miles down hill while your thighs burn. Upper Holy Jim is not easy. 
Phishin Paul02/13/10Started with Graham at BS. Met up with Keith B and Sarah on MD. The 4 of us climbed up to 4 corners and I then continued on solo. Fun riding with everyone and Sarah can fly. Had to finish with climb out of O'neil to get home. That hurt. 
Hammertime02/12/10Great solo training ride, really got to push it the whole way, didn't really warm up till eagle road. Awesome views and perfect conditions, all rideable... upper holy jim claimed my pedal though, only had one side to work with after that. 
TrailMonkey02/11/10Wet, Mud, Sticky, Snow, cold, and a little hick a bike, good training ride. The Backside of Santiago was more like skiing then biking. From Trabuco rode home. Total 48 miles 
Keith B01/17/10Long ride with Ryan and the Randster. Saw some old buddies at the top of Motorway. Got cramp up at 4 corners but slowed down and it eased - then again maybe it was Randy's Overdrive drink. Storm looked to be coming in as we got to the top. Upper HJ was a mess but I think all the rock piles were put there to limit rain damage. LHJ trail worked looked superb. Eggbeater broke on the way down. Crashed too, argh. Rode the last 5miles in the rain. Super gf picked us up at the wash :-) 
Burgemeester11/14/09Part 2 - Boerseun and I decided this was a good training ride for VQ - we had a sweet pace going and everything went really smoothly! Best part was decending HJ - love that trail! Thanks Boerseun for an Epic - this was my furthest/highest to date on US soil! 
RoughRiderR11/08/09Held a nice pace with a few extended breaks. Started out at the bottom of motorway at 7:30 and finished back at my place at 3. Luckly Pam gave me a ride back to my g ride. Was a great solo ride. Met some guys doing smashmouth at Beeks. Saw lots of hikers, dirtbikes, Jeeps, etc. It must have been hunting season as there were trucks full of men with guns. Chatted wtih Kaw-D at the bottom of motorway... was good to see him...Road rides soon! 
Keith B11/07/09late start and only jsut finished before dark. Got cramp jsut past pleasants peak and by the time I was heading up Maple I had to stop every 10mins to massage my legs. Very cold up at the peak. Saw plenty of hikers dashing down - they werent going to make it before dark. Crashed on UHJ which was alot gnarlier than I recall. Met Paul and Dave coming up - good to see Dave back to riding again, kudos to Paul for SS-ing HJ. 
oc_laske06/27/09Brutal ride today. Things started out well enough, but the heat started to take its toll on the way up to 4 corners. Thanks Shine and Slopush for pushing me to complete the ride. And thanks to the friendly 4 wheelers out there that gave us water and ice! I would have turned back for sure without it. 
slopush06/27/09Super hot ride today w/ OClaske and Shine. NStilwell did the Blackstar/Motorway part of it with us. Ran out of water twice- Thanks to Steve w/ the Red truck for giving us his water and ice- you saved us! 
Shine06/27/09Way way way way too hot to do this route today... Thanks slopush, oclaske, and nstilwell for the memorable day. 
5Large03/09/09Thanks to everyone that helped out for such a great event! 
Mark W.03/08/09Good day on the bike, happy with the time. Legs were not strong so I spun and that worked! Congrats to my vq buddies who did great! Thanks to Warrior's for another great event! 
PaulV03/08/09perfect conditions, wow! A little cold here and there, but felt good. Tire problems on motorway and HJ (running stan's but had to pump). Tried all day to keep up with the BMX biker, damn can that dude move out on that thing! Would have busted 5 hours without tire problems, so very happy with that. Made goal of beating manny over the line (I wonder if he told the hikers there was 300 behind him again :) Good to see everyone, this is always quite an experience!! 
bossvader03/08/09Most Excellent Day, Descended Well 
DenT03/08/09Cold and dark at the start. That did not last long. Loved the beating drum. Weather was so much better than my first event, Traverse 08. Happy with my time and energy. First time down Upper Holy Jim, Holy $#@%! Lots of riders, lots of smiles. Thank you Warriors for a great event and huge thanks for all the volunteers. Your long day is very much appreciated. 
cafraser03/08/09Fun ride. I was pleased with my time. Got to ride a little with cousin Ben and met troube1. 
FREEKENGO03/08/09Great day for a ride! 
erichunner03/08/09Beat my old record by 8 minutes. The ice on top was dicey. Ran SS 32x20. Felt strong, fouth SS to finish CC. 10th place overall 
nducharme42603/08/09I didn't actually register, so i took off at about 6:15 and did it by myself. I had plenty of "rabbits" to keep me motivated. 
davidB.03/08/09First time, took it easy and made it a social ride of sorts. Singlespeeding ain't so bad. 7:20 
gassertrucks03/07/09long day in the saddle. Sick + no training + SS = pain. Severe cramps most of the race. Still a great event. 2nd SS rider to finish CC. 
ross b03/07/09Felt pretty good. Wisdom was the key in timing the climbs. Read Proverbs 8:1-3 during the ride. Great to be inspired by God Almighty in the saddle. Great day with Redo and John. Ryan was great to see out there as well. Hope the VQ was great too. 
Royster7103/07/09I had a great time! Good riding with all the Troupers! Ben it was awsome riding with you. Saw a lot of familiar faces out there. Felt like I rode well. Few occasions had some nice leg cramping. Once we hit upper Holy Jim. It was was pretty much "you Know It" what a place to end it. The weather was in good shape as well as the course. Thank you so much for all your efforts warriors! 
Duke77703/07/09Got a flat 2 miles to the finish...missed the nail and there goes the new tube and CO2. Some nice people game me a tube while driving by. THANKS! Great event and "fun"? haha.... 
Weekend Warrior03/07/09That was the coolest, Rode with my buddy Sal and had a blast. The ride was very well coordinated and everyone working the event was so supportive. Thank you everyone. 
jbh6503/07/09truly inspiring event put on by a great group of folks. Giant shout out to the Warriors Society. Thanks Eric(otb_again) you were right the goals could and would be smashed. Thanks, Terry B for the having the bike always in tip top shape, & last but definitely not least Thank you Lord for taking care of so many today! 
STEVO CARRILLO03/07/09WOW.......This kicked my butt. What a great adventure though. I met some really good people along the way. I want to give a big shout out to Eric Finefield, he was my coach, spirit advisor and good friend for pulling me up the 2nd half of the course. Congratulation to all that raced today you truly are warriors. 
XCRider03/07/09Warrior Society put on a tremendous show here with people at every turn and well staffed aid stations. Great support even for back of the pack. Smashed my best time around to 4 corners by 30 minutes. Gave it all back resting at 4C and hiking down technical stuff on UHJ. 1:20 to Beeks, 2:00 at Pleasants, about 3:20 at MS, 5:15 at 4C. No solid food until 4C was key to stopping fatigue on Maple Springs climb. 45min breaks on MD, 30min breaks on MS. 30 is better. 
goldrunner03/07/09Sub 6hour which was my goal, 20 minutes faster than last year : ) Good riding with Royster, who has been on fire lately. All those chilly peppers are finally paying off. Good riding with my cousin Cameron, Fellow Troupers and lots of other Mtn. Bikers. Thanks Warriors, can't wait till next year, yes I can... 
trobe103/07/09Wow, what a ride! Thanks Warrior's Society. Longest ride by far for me to date. Started out w/ Royster and Goldrunner but didn't have it in me today to keep up. Nice job guys! Big props to the VQ riders and anyone who rode SS. Met pacman, finefield,jmoney and ran into jbh65 during ride. Thanks to Hal and Don Jackson for volunteering out there. Hung out w/ Thinkfast, PaulV, Royster and others at end. Hope to do this one again next year! 
RollnStone03/07/09Thanks to the Warriors for a great event. Support at the aid stations was fantastic as many of the volunteers actually helped fill hydration packs. Rode with Beth and Steve from STR. 
OTB_again03/07/09My first CC - a surreal experience. Big thanks to my training partner Jay aka jbh65, for pushing me and making me a better rider. Terry Best - you are the best thanks for dialling in my rig so perfect. To KWH and Brenda, thanks for the cold ones at the finish - you guys rock. The best weather you could ask for. Thanks to Chris V. and all the Warriors for a great event! Trails were in unbelievable shape. 
Waldo03/07/09Perfect day, great people, great ride, and great support from my MtnKitty (thanks Babe!) 
xhuskr03/07/09Great event...very happy with the way I rode even if slower the 2nd half..good people to ride with made it better. Way to go Waldo for riding being stuck in 2nd geat in back until the end!! 
EK-RSM03/07/09RX: Was 20 minutes faster than my time last year when I endoed at 37 miles.....banged up pretty good, so I sat for a while before making it to the finish. Thanks to the hikers who helped out and the riders who alerted the Aid Station. Shot some great video from a borrowed bike cam. 
Finefield02/21/09The ride that seemed to never end. Perfect weather lots of riders. Thanks Stevo and I almost forgot about Vicky the fastest girl I've ever met on a mtb, nice to meet you. 
rushak02/21/09Long day out there. Tons of snow still up towards the peak and the backside. Lots of hiking. I doubt the snow will melt by the time VQ/CC starts. Rode with Ryan, Matt, Doug and Andrew. Thanks for the lift back to BS Doug! 
Hermit02/21/09Late start with Andrew, Doug, Jason, and Ryan. Perfect ride until after four corners, when periodic snow sections started spoiling our fun. Main Divide on the back side of the peak was completely covered with 8-12" of snow. Couldn't even ride downhill for almost a mile after the peak. 
IanH02/21/09Plenty of hiking in the snow about a mile from the peak either side. At least 6 to 8 inches of packed down snow and ice. Had some major mech issues on upper holy jim and had to free wheel back 
quad damage02/21/09Bike is still in the shop, so thanks to Matt for letting me borrow his SS. Rode with Matt, Jason, Doug and Andrew. Felt pretty good for the entire ride. Hiking in the show was tough, but I guess worth it? Fell in a puddle on Trabuco Creek Road. =( Thanks for the duct tape Andrew ... 
mtbfan01/11/09What an adventure. We hit some scary gusts of wind on Blackstar and Main Divide, snow at the Peak and a fallen tree on Holy Jim. It was one of the best rides with some of the greatest people, seeking pain. 
milatime12/06/08What a sweet day! Except my water was contaminated and ended up emptying my stomach at the top of lower holy jim, yuk! 
alenz03/05/08Great Day! 
Superjas1203/05/08 
Hal03/04/08This was a failed Vision Quest attempt. Missed the Horsethief cutoff by aboout 1/2 hr. Got turned around at the bottom of Holy Jim. Congrats to Frank and Ben, & all of the other finishers. JR, sorry but I guess we're in the same boat. 
shoegal03/03/08GNARLY! I loved every second of it/ Eveenthough I have some minor whiplash from and indo that occurred on Motorway. 
shoegal03/03/08 
bossvader03/03/08I am sure it has all been said, but for me Great Day. Didn't get as much training in and got the exact same time! Seriously less than 20 sec difference! 
halfasst03/02/08Thanks to the Warrior's for another great event. There was lots of help and support out there. Thanks to the trail angels and their bells at the bottom of the course, they pulled me through to the finish! 
Keith B03/02/08Fantastic ride and a personal best time for me. New bike was superb and despite the cramp that kicked in from the last climb up to Santiago to the finish line I had a blast. 
flyingbrian03/01/08Great day for a counting coup ride. Nice cool temperature, but a little foggy at times. Impressive number of single speeds and hard tails out on the trail today.Had my garmin on but it didnt show first part, so I had to tag onto the official ride 
TBlazen03/01/08Awesome day....foggy, sunny, foggy, sunny again... Great ride, great people to ride with.... Had a flat tire 1/2 mile to the finish...LMAO 
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